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Lost
May 10, 2007 17:34:36 GMT -5
Post by MsAng on May 10, 2007 17:34:36 GMT -5
Whoa.
*********** SPOILERS ************************************
Ben shot John. and all that weird Jacob crap?? We-ird.
I am looking forward to the rest of the season. but I know one whammy of a cliff-hanger ending is probably in store.
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Lost
May 14, 2007 2:25:08 GMT -5
Post by trantee on May 14, 2007 2:25:08 GMT -5
This episode was 'just' what i needed .. It was great ! weird stuff, great twist at the cliffhanger ending .. i needed that bad .. And Jacob .. is .. well .. I dunno .. I'll put him up there with the Black Smoke and Desmond's-future-telling. Hey, has anyone noticed how Richard Alpert (the one that recruited Juliet and sees Ben as a kid) didn't age all that much (or perhaps even nothing) Could he be the black smoke in human form ?? From Lostpedia -> "During the 30 years in which Ben grew up, Richard doesn't seem to have aged at all. In "The Man Behind the Curtain" Ben asked him if he even remembered what birthdays were, and while referring to the Island, Richard told Juliet that "you're gonna be amazed at how time flies once you're there". ("One of Us"). In "The Brig" Richard states "no matter how much time you spend on the island, you never get tired of this view". This implies that Richard has indeed been there for a very long time. " Mysteries mysteries .. Anyway .. good show ..
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Lost
May 14, 2007 12:12:48 GMT -5
Post by The Movie Mark on May 14, 2007 12:12:48 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]POSSIBLE SPOILERS[/glow]
I agree - excellent episode. I loved Locke totally punking out eye patch.
I thought the same thing about Richard and the fact that he didn't seem to age. Ben now looks older than he does!
I don't even know where to start with theories about Jacob. Did anybody else go back and watch the scene with Jacob frame-by-frame? He appears briefly, but you might miss it if you're not paying attention. He looks like Kris Kristofferson.
Those of you who were Season 1 fans, I can't see how you would not be back fully on board! Can't wait for the upcoming showdown with the Others.
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Lost
May 24, 2007 12:09:37 GMT -5
Post by Laslo Hollyfeld on May 24, 2007 12:09:37 GMT -5
I was on the brink. I was ready to walk away for good and only look back long enough to give the finger one last time. I was this close to filing a lawsuit for emotional damages done to me by this bloody show. My finger was on the button, it was the Cuban Missle Crisis all over again. Jack Bauer's worst nightmare.
But now, the urge to kill is fading....fading....
1. Sayid is the man. He needs to get off the island so he can be partners with Jack Bauer. Besides, Sayid can totally infiltrate the next terrorist cell.
2. Jack beating the living crap out of Ben was the single most satisfying thing I have ever seen. Period.
3. Disney needs to open up a "Hurley's Wild Ride" attraction at the Magic Kingdom NOW.
4. Kate is SO hot.
5. I can't believe I'm saying this, but for a split second, I believed Ben was telling the truth about the need for the island to remain hidden. But then I remembered he's Ben, he's a liar, and he needs his knickers set ablaze right now. (I don't care that Penny doesn't know who Naomi is. Ben's a liar. And he needs a couple more whacks in the groin with a tree branch.)
6. Sawyer is likewise the man. "I didn't believe him." ICE cold, dude.
7. "Jack, if you say 'Live together, die alone' to me, I'm going to punch you in the face." Rose is also the man.
8. "You screwin' Jack yet?" "No...are you?" Lord help me...Juliet was the man in that moment. Smirk or no smirk, that was her Vasquez moment right there.
Which is not to say that there weren't plenty of things for me to make fun of in this episode. For instance:
1. Jack's fake beard was the worst fake beard since Liza Minelli.
2. Hey, Charlie? Here's a nickel's worth of free advice, pal: if you've got time to go over to the door and close it before the water fills up and you drown, then you've got enough time to go THROUGH the open door and close it BEHIND YOU. I'm just sayin.
3. Also, from a physics standpoint, there is really no way Charlie should have drowned at all. The water level would only rise until it became even with the broken window, and then it would stop. There was plenty of space above the window. It's the same principle as when you put a cup upside down in water, trapping air. If the air can't get out, the water can't get it. It's why the whole station doesn't flood even with a giant moon pool in the bottom there for submarines to dock.
4. Can we FINALLY agree that Mikhail the crazy Russian is dead now? Please? That guy's friggin Rasputin. He just won't go down. He can apparently run through a magical electric fence and not die, he can take a spear gun to the chest and not die, but there is NO WAY he survived a grenade blast at close range. I'm sorry, but if he washes up on shore, cracks his neck like nothing was wrong and wanders off into the Jungle singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," then I really AM out.
5. And what was up with those two hot lesbians in the underwater station at all? Yes they were, and you know it. Why else would they both go and live down there? Oh right... to "jam the signal." Suuurrrre. They may wear fatigues and combat boots, but you just know that their living quarters is all Feng Sui and Lillith Fair posters.
Still, overall I can say that it was the best episode they may have ever done, the possible exception being Locke's very first episode.
You got lucky, Lost, because you almost lost me. But let's not let it happen again, okay?
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Lost
May 24, 2007 14:35:18 GMT -5
Post by MsAng on May 24, 2007 14:35:18 GMT -5
2. Jack beating the living crap out of Ben was the single most satisfying thing I have ever seen. Period. So true. 3. Disney needs to open up a "Hurley's Wild Ride" attraction at the Magic Kingdom NOW. OMG, I'm still laughing. they could totally do it, too. doesn't disney own ABC? Which is not to say that there weren't plenty of things for me to make fun of in this episode. For instance: 1. Jack's fake beard was the worst fake beard since Liza Minelli. OHHHH yeah. Horrible. And what in the world was going on with the "go get my father! if I'm drunker than he is..." stuff? Was that some weird forshadowing that his father isn't really dead, or just because he was drunk and all drugged up? 2. Hey, Charlie? Here's a nickel's worth of free advice, pal: if you've got time to go over to the door and close it before the water fills up and you drown, then you've got enough time to go THROUGH the open door and close it BEHIND YOU. I'm just sayin. but he HAD to sacrifice himself or the rescue wouldn't happen.. I'm just sayin.... [/quote]
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Lost
May 25, 2007 10:22:27 GMT -5
Post by trantee on May 25, 2007 10:22:27 GMT -5
Laslo, my good man, my tummy hurts from laughing great post .. And yeah, i think the one-liner-scribing-dewd on the Lost-team had a great day when he wrote all those ROFL I'm normally quite a calm guy (also when watching TV), but i was actually air-boxing when Jack was hitting the sh#t out of Ben dang, that felt good .. OUCH, didn't even think of that one O.รต 1 question though; production-team said they stopping in 2010 with the show .. 3 more seasons .. what they hell will they'll be showing ?
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Lost
May 25, 2007 18:18:47 GMT -5
Post by MsCali on May 25, 2007 18:18:47 GMT -5
I thought that too at first, but then realized that he had to shut the door AND lock it. You can't lock it from the outside you know. Gees.
Actually, I think Charlie just figured he had to drown or the rescue wouldn't happen, due to Desmond's dreams.
I personally think the show is incredibly stupid, and it lost me after the first season. I only saw the last ten or so minutes of the finale because Mr. C watched it while I made dinner last night, and it wasn't quite over when we sat down to eat.
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Lost
May 28, 2007 23:22:02 GMT -5
Post by MsAng on May 28, 2007 23:22:02 GMT -5
Well, apparantly they are having three more "mini-seasons" or something, not full fall-to-spring seasons. That will make it like 1+ full season more of episodes, they are just going to draw it out. I want to know: -whose funeral it was -what is with all the flash forwards -whose boat is offshore -am anxious to see how the Alex/Russeau (sp?) relationship plays out -what is with this Jacob guy -I really hope Ben gets his a$$ handed to him -does Desmond still have Charlie's list to give to Claire?
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Lost
May 29, 2007 5:26:20 GMT -5
Post by trantee on May 29, 2007 5:26:20 GMT -5
- what is the black smoke - why can Locke walk -- although i think it might be because of steel plates that could have been inserted in his back, and that the magnetism on the island is doing something with these plates and putting pressure on the right nerves, so he can walk again .. but that's just my theory... - what is Jacob
those are my only questions now... I don't think i'll be looking at the comming seasons .. perhaps take a glimps now and then
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Lost
May 29, 2007 8:12:31 GMT -5
Post by Laslo Hollyfeld on May 29, 2007 8:12:31 GMT -5
MsAng: there's a general feeling that we'll see more of these flash forwards in future episodes, with the "flash backs" being what happened on the island. I, for one, am in favor of this kind of shift in storytelling, because it will keep things interesting.
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Lost
May 31, 2007 12:16:12 GMT -5
Post by The Movie Mark on May 31, 2007 12:16:12 GMT -5
Tis been a while, and I've been wanting to respond to this, but just haven't had time. Now's the time... 2. Jack beating the living crap out of Ben was the single most satisfying thing I have ever seen. Period. Amen. An uncontrollable smile lit up my face as I clenched my fists and yelled, "YES! JACK RULES!" 3. Disney needs to open up a "Hurley's Wild Ride" attraction at the Magic Kingdom NOW. What an awesome moment. I love that Hurley had an opportunity to be the hero, and watching dude roll under the bus was hilarious. I'd add another "so" or two. 5. I can't believe I'm saying this, but for a split second, I believed Ben was telling the truth about the need for the island to remain hidden. I'm afraid he may still be telling the truth, as witnessed by the flash forward with Jack regretting that they ever left the island. Even if he is, I hope that doesn't mean they're going to turn him into a "good" guy because I still agree that Ben needs to die. Painfully. 6. Sawyer is likewise the man. "I didn't believe him." ICE cold, dude. Another mark-out moment. 2. Hey, Charlie? Here's a nickel's worth of free advice, pal: if you've got time to go over to the door and close it before the water fills up and you drown, then you've got enough time to go THROUGH the open door and close it BEHIND YOU. I'm just sayin. I thought the same thing at first, but I agree with Ms. Cali - he had to lock it from the inside. What I don't understand is why didn't he just try to swim through the window? He's a small dude, and it looked big enough for him to fit through. He could have at least, you know, TRIED IT! I also don't understand why he didn't take the scuba gear in the room with him. If I knew there was a premonition that I was gonna drown then I'd be taking every precaution possible. 3. Also, from a physics standpoint, there is really no way Charlie should have drowned at all. The water level would only rise until it became even with the broken window, and then it would stop. Touche. 4. Can we FINALLY agree that Mikhail the crazy Russian is dead now? Please? I'm laying odds that he's still alive. Just watch. He'll have swam away from the explosion or something. Honestly, Ms. Cali, I can't see how you think this is stupid. The writers have obviously laid the groundwork for the mythology from the very beginning, and it's looking more and more like there's going to be a tremendous payoff. You just don't find detailed writing like this on TV anymore.
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Lost
May 31, 2007 12:25:25 GMT -5
Post by The Movie Mark on May 31, 2007 12:25:25 GMT -5
Lots of theories on this one. I dismiss the notion that it's Ben. If you look at a screenshot of the newspaper clip that Jack was holding you can see that the person's first name begins with a "J." I already posted my less-than-serious theory on TMM.
The fact that the funeral home was in a black neighborhood and the funeral director was black could provide a clue. Could be Jacob. Could be a character we haven't seen yet.
Laslo touched on this. It's also possible that the bulk of the story will take place on the island, and the "flash forwards" will replace the "flashbacks" and tell us what happened once they got off the island and why it's important that they not leave.
I still think time travel/time loops will play a part.
That's the biggie. I've seen some interesting theories that involve Biblical parallels, but I just can't venture a guess at the moment.
I don't see why he wouldn't, though it may be a little wet now.
An experiment in nanotechnology? It's obviously some sort of security system.
Now I have to get the first season DVD set and start looking for clues.
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Lost
Jun 3, 2007 13:45:42 GMT -5
Post by trantee on Jun 3, 2007 13:45:42 GMT -5
I'm still VERY intrigued with what the production house once said a while ago..
They said that a LOT of people (if not all) missed a VERY important clue the first 5 seconds of the show.
Everybody thought it was the reflection in Jack's eyes, that would show the black smoke, but they said it wasn't that ..
A fan once stated that the only thing you see more in those 5 seconds, is the dog jumping over Jack.
Some people thought the dog was the black smoke ..
Still .. i wonder what they mean with those first 5 seconds ..
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Lost
Jun 29, 2007 2:38:04 GMT -5
Post by nikkibluejeans on Jun 29, 2007 2:38:04 GMT -5
Oh, boy... I can't get started on this - it's way too late!
I just hope they're not jerking us around about Charlie... If he survives the kamikaze mission after a full summer of mourning, I will be none too pleased. It was bad enough that they prepared us for his demise and then dragged it out over another episode. Grrr... That's TWO episodes' worth of crying for Nikki.
I say Ben is in the coffin... If Jack wants to get back to the island, Ben was probably the only one who knew where it was. His death could have triggered Jack's hopeless breakdown - and the "neither" response when asked if he was friend or family.
OR
Much like Brooks from The Shawshank Redemption, life after being rescued is too much for the survivors - whom Jack led off the island - and they're ending their lives, one by one. This one was another suicide perhaps in a long line, and Jack is determined to "fix" the situation by getting them all back there, where they lived in relative peace.
Just some thoughts...
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Lost
Jul 2, 2007 2:57:43 GMT -5
Post by trantee on Jul 2, 2007 2:57:43 GMT -5
Oh, boy... I can't get started on this - it's way too late!
I just hope they're not jerking us around about Charlie... If he survives the kamikaze mission after a full summer of mourning, I will be none too pleased. It was bad enough that they prepared us for his demise and then dragged it out over another episode. Grrr... That's TWO episodes' worth of crying for Nikki.
He's dead allright.. Production team said that "Charlie's arc of story is complete" and that there not much more worth telling about the character ...
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