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Post by MsCali on Oct 22, 2004 2:58:13 GMT -5
Tonight I went to my first NBA game (well, it was a preseason game, but still:)...the Lakers v. the Golden State Warriors, and I think I like Basketball better than baseball now! There's more going on, so I don't get bored, the game doesn't last as long, and Laker's fans are really fun!!!
My company has season tickets, so I got to go for free and had pretty good seats (which is even better)...of course, now I want season tickets!
Anyway...the Lakers gave the game away (they were about 10 points behind most of the game), but rallied in the last five minutes to take the lead...but then the Warriors came back...and then Kobe shot a 3 pointer to tie the game...and alas, the Warriors won in overtime. But they were the better team, so they deserved it.
So now, of course, I have some questions - I know Johnny likes basketball (at least enough to cheer for Memphis, who won tonight!), but anyone who knows, please answer my questions...they have been driving me crazy all night!
What is up with the whole "foul" thing? How do they decide if a player gets free throws (and how many they get)? Also, how many fouls do you get before you can't play anymore (apparently, the Lakers really like to foul)?
Other than that, I pretty much understand the game, so it was driving me crazy not knowing that much...especially as much as the Lakers fouled. Oh yeah, and what is the difference between a personal foul and a team foul? Is there a point where they say "Your team has had too many fouls tonight...you can't play anymore." ? Did I mention how the Lakers really like to foul? They must have been pretty close to that point!
And I miss Rick Fox! Sigh...
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Post by The Movie Mark on Oct 22, 2004 11:05:29 GMT -5
What is up with the whole "foul" thing? How do they decide if a player gets free throws (and how many they get)? Also, how many fouls do you get before you can't play anymore (apparently, the Lakers really like to foul)? The rules in college and the NBA are a little different, but here's the gist: 1) If a player is fouled while they're in the act of shooting, then they get two free throws no matter what. 2) In the NBA, a team can commit up to four fouls (in a half) before free throws are allowed. For example, if you foul someone who isn't in the act of shooting, then the team just throws the ball inbounds, unless the team has over four fouls in that half. At that point, a player who is fouled gets a "1 and 1." If he makes his first free throw attempt, then he gets a second, but if he misses his first attempt, then it's a live ball. After another number of fouls (8 or something, can't remember) the player who is fouled gets 2 attempts. 3) A player can commit 6 fouls before fouling out. In college you foul out after 5 fouls. Oh yeah, and what is the difference between a personal foul and a team foul? Is there a point where they say "Your team has had too many fouls tonight...you can't play anymore." ? A personal foul is called when a ref determines that unnecessary physical contact has been made. For example, if a player touches somebody's hand when trying to steal the ball, or if a player touches someone's arm when they're taking a shot, then it's a "team foul." Basically, if you're going for the ball and commit a foul, then it's going to be a "team foul." But if a player throws a forearm or an elbow or pushes another player down, then it's most likely going to be called a personal foul. Personal fouls carry their own penalty. I think you get two free throws for a personal foul. You can never get too many fouls though. Players can start fouling out, of course, but you could get to the point where so many people foul out that you only have four players left, and you'd just have to play with four players. I've never seen that happen. I hope that helps! Back to my WWWP article... |
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Post by niko on Oct 22, 2004 12:04:54 GMT -5
Also, if a player is fouled while shooting behind the three point line,he gets to shoot three free throws.
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Post by MrShade on Oct 22, 2004 14:41:59 GMT -5
I believe a personal foul is any kind of foul commited by a player and team foul is just the number of fouls total for a team. Personal fouls commited by an offensive player are not counted as team fouls and when both teams are charged with personal fouls on the same play neither team is charged a team foul.
Technical fouls do not count toward team. These are fouls such as excessive timeouts (calling a timeout when you don't have any left), delay of game, illegal substitutions, etc. They can also be called against coaches and even the crowd.
Flagrant fouls are personal fouls that are deemed to be unnecessary. They count as both personal and team fouls. The opposing team gets 2 free throws and the ball back. Two flagrant fouls in a game will get you ejected.
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Post by MsCali on Oct 22, 2004 16:18:34 GMT -5
Ah, the best flagrant foul last night was when Lamar Odem (I think) had the ball, and one of the Warriors was blocking him...Odem just chest butted him really hard and knocked him down. That was great (I wanted a fight to break out on the court, but that was the closest it came...heh)
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Post by niko on Nov 21, 2004 20:37:41 GMT -5
Hey MsCali did you see the fight that broke out during the final minutes of the Pacer-Pistons game? That is the biggest fight I've seen in awhile. The guy who first went in the crowd is suspended for the rest of the season.
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Post by Rhiannon on Nov 22, 2004 8:16:10 GMT -5
that was craziness.
Ms. Cali, welcome to a *much* better sport, for spectators at least, than baseball.
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Post by MsCali on Nov 22, 2004 12:31:45 GMT -5
Yeah...I was a little nervous during the Clippers game Sunday - we had floor seats (right behind the basket) and the guy at the end of our row was rooting for Phoenix. I was tempted to root for Phoenix too, actually (I have this theory that the team I root for always looses)...but I was afraid I'd be attacked! They posted a message at the beginning of the game about not fighting, throwing things, or going out onto the court - I don't remember them doing that at the Lakers game.
And don't you just love the people who think they can coach or play better than the people who are paid to do that? There was a couple sitting a few rows behind us that obviously thought that. My favorite quote from them, when one of the Clippers players missed his first free throw of the evening, was, "You have to get it in the basket!" (said very matter-of-factly)
And the award for worst hair in the staples center yesterday goes to Steve Nash of the Phoenix suns. Dude...get a haircut.
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